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Postuar nga darke datë 21 Tetor 2004 - 01:54:

klasifikimi racave njerezore

OUTLINE OF HUMAN RACIAL CLASSIFICATION:




I. Capoid or Khoisanid Subspecies of southern Africa

A. Khoid (Hottentot) race
B. Sanid (Bushmen) race



II. Congoid Subspecies of sub-Saharan Africa

A. Central African race

1. Palaecongoid subrace (the Congo river basin: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Congo, Angola)
2. Sudanid subrace (western Africa: Niger, Mali, Senegal, Guinea)
3. Nilotid subrace (southern Sudan; the ancient Nubians were of this subrace)
4. Kafrid or Bantid subrace (east and south Africa: Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, Natal)

B. Bambutid race (African Pygmies)

C. Aethiopid race (Ethiopia, Somalia; hybridized with Caucasoids)



III. Caucasoid or Europid Subspecies

A. Mediterranid race

1. West Mediterranean or Iberid subrace (Spain, Portugal, Corsica, Sardinia, and coastal areas of Morocco and Tunisia; the Atlanto-Mediterranean peoples who expanded over much of the Atlantic coastal regions of Europe during the Mesolithic period were a branch of this subrace)
2. East Mediterranean or Pontid subrace (Black Sea coast of Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria; Aegean coasts of Greece and Turkey)
3. Dinaricized Mediterraneans (Residual mixed types resulting from the blending of Mediterranids with Dinarics, Alpines or Armenids; not a unified type, has much regional variation; predominant element [over 60%] in Sicily and southern Italy, principal element in Turkey [35%], important element in western Syria, Lebanon and central Italy, common in northern Italy. The ancient Cappadocian Mediterranean subrace of Anatolia was dinaricized during the Bronze Age [second millennium B.C.] and is a major contributor to this type in modern Turkey.)
4. South Mediterranean or Saharid subrace (predominant in Algeria and Libya, important in Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt)
5. Orientalid or Arabid subrace (predominant in Arabia, major element from Egypt to Syria, primary in northern Sudan, important in Iraq, predominant element among the Oriental Jews)

B. Dinaric race (predominant in western Balkans [Dinaric Mountains] and northern Italy, important in the Czech Republic, eastern and southern Switzerland, western Austria and eastern Ukraine)

C. Alpine race (predominant element in Luxembourg, primary in Bavaria and Bohemia, important in France, Hungary, eastern and southern Switzerland)

D. Ladogan race (named after Lake Ladoga; indigenous to Russia; includes Lappish subrace of arctic Europe)

E. Nordish or Northern European race (various subraces in the British Isles, Scandinavia, the Netherlands and Belgium; predominant element in Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Finland and the Baltic States; majority in Austria and Russia; minority in France, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary; outlined in detail in The Nordish Race)

F. Armenid race (predominant element in Armenia, common in Syria, Lebanon and northern Iraq, primary element among the Ashkenazic Jews)

G. Turanid race (partially hybridized with Mongoloids; predominant element in Kazakhstan.; common in Hungary and Turkey)

H. Irano-Afghan race (predominant in Iran and Afghanistan, primary element in Iraq, common [25%] in Turkey)

I. Indic or Nordindid race (Pakistan and northern India)

J. Dravidic race (India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka [Ceylon]; ancient stabilized Indic-Veddoid [Australoid] blend)



IV. Australoid Subspecies

A. Veddoid race (remnant Australoid population in central and southern India)

B. Negritos (remnants in Malaysia and the Philippines)

C. Melanesian race (New Guinea, Papua, Solomon Islands)

D. Australian-Tasmanian race (Australian Aborigines)



V. Mongoloid Subspecies

A. Northeast Asian race (various subraces in China, Manchuria, Korea and Japan)

B. Southeast Asian race (various subraces in Indochina, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines, some partly hybridized with Australoids)

C. Micronesian-Polynesian race (hybridized with Australoids)

D. Ainuid race (remnants of aboriginal population in northern Japan)

E. Tungid race (Mongolia and Siberia, Eskimos)

F. Amerindian race (American Indians; various subraces)





The diverse races of the human species outlined above all have their own geographical territory that has historically been exclusively their own, which may be referred to as their racial homeland, and is closely identified with the race that inhabits it. Between most of these exclusive homelands are clinal zones -- areas of contact between different racial territories. These racial borderlands are frequently areas of interracial contact and intermixture where adjacent races merge into one another, creating racially mixed or hybridized populations of intermediate type called racial clines. The Dravidic race of India and Sri Lanka, created by the intermixture of the local Caucasoid (Indic or Nordindid) and Australoid (Veddoid) populations, and the Aethiopid race of Ethiopia and Somalia, created by the intermixture of the local Caucasoid (Mediterranid) and Congoid races, are two very ancient racial clines -- perhaps 10,000 years old -- which have stabilized into distinct races of intermediate type. Racial clines of more recent formation, where the racial blends are not yet stabilized, include the populations of many Latin American and Caribbean countries, which were created over the last 500 years by the intermixture of various Caucasoid (mostly Mediterranid), Congoid and Amerindian elements. The population of Mexico, for example, is about 5% Caucasoid, 30% Amerindian and 65% Mestizo, the Spanish term for persons of mixed Amerindian-Caucasoid ancestry. (The same term is used in the Philippines for persons of mixed Filipino-Caucasoid ancestry.) The multiracialization of the populations of North America and, more recently, Europe, has begun to transform them into racial clines. This process of racial transformation will eventually cause the effective extinction or nonexistence of the European racial types in the affected areas unless adequate preservationist measures are taken to prevent it.


Postuar nga Endri datë 21 Tetor 2004 - 04:33:

Citim:
Dinaric race (predominant in western Balkans


and this includes majority of albanians


Postuar nga darke datë 21 Tetor 2004 - 04:36:

Question

Citim:
Po citoj ato që tha Endri


and this includes majority of albanians


so there is no such "arian" race


Postuar nga Endri datë 21 Tetor 2004 - 04:56:

Citim:
so there is no such "arian" race


supposebly aryan race are part of Indo-European. Hellenic,Albanian,Germanic...

here is a language tree
http://www.geocities.com/ga57/albania/tree.jpg


Postuar nga darke datë 21 Tetor 2004 - 04:59:

Citim:
Po citoj ato që tha Endri


supposebly aryan race are part of Indo-European. Hellenic,Albanian,Germanic...


supposely


Postuar nga Endri datë 21 Tetor 2004 - 05:04:

that "supposely" was for, that i believe there is no better race.

Here is encyclopedia definition

Definition: [n] a member of the prehistoric people who spoke Proto-Indo European
[n] (according to Nazi doctrine) a non-Jewish Caucasian person of Nordic descent
[adj] of or relating to the former Indo-European people; "Indo-European migrations"

And guess who the oldest Indo-European language is?


Postuar nga darke datë 21 Tetor 2004 - 05:10:

Question arian, a creation of the nazis?

The Aryan race is a concept which reached its height of popularity during the 19th century and first half of the 20th century. Inspired by the discovery of the Indo-European language family, 19th century ethnologists speculated that all "white" European peoples descended from an ancient people called the Aryans.

This idea was adopted by several European colonialist and nationalist movements of that era — notably Nazis, who used the concept of the Aryan race (redefined to mean a "master race" of people of northern European descent) to justify their racial and military policies.


Postuar nga Endri datë 22 Tetor 2004 - 00:27:

correctly

nonetheless, indo-europeans and other races have been studied first scientificly through genetics, before it got twisted for personal "gains" such as the example of Hitler.


Postuar nga darke datë 22 Tetor 2004 - 07:47:

Question The Aryan homeland question

What I wrote in the anterior message was from an article that I found in internet; but read this part , this is really funny!!!



The geographical origins of the ancient "Aryans" are still the object of much dispute. Avestan was the language of ancient Persia (roughly coincident with modern Iran). Sanskrit is originally associated with the Indus Valley in the north of India, just to the east of Persia. The indigenous (and modern) name for Persia, "Iran", is a variant of "Aryan" (in fact it is Ayr + -an, "land of Aryans", where -an is a suffix of location in Persian). Furthermore, the leaders of Persia called themselves Aryans. Darius the Great, King of Persia (521 - 486 BC), in an inscription in Naqsh-e-Rostam (near Shiraz, Iran) proclaims: "I am Darius, the Great King, ..., A Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage...". The Avesta also records a homeland, called Airyanem Vaejah (The Aryan Expanse), from which the Aryans are supposed to have migrated.

These and other clues suggested that an Aryan people whose descendants were the Achaemenians (such as the kings Cyrus II and Darius the Great) existed and proclaimed it. However, many of these usages are also intelligible if we understand the word Aryan in its sense of "noble".

This evidence gave rise to the search for the original Aryan homeland, and thus, it was believed, to the origins of the European "race". Many scholars argued that the Aryans originated in the Inner Asian Steppes, from which they migrated both west into Europe and south into Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan and parts of Northern India around 1800 BC. The spread of the Aryans was supposed to explain how it came to pass that Indo-European languages became so widespread throughout Europe and Asia. It was thought, moreover, that the Aryans came as conquerors, displacing earlier peoples, in most of the places where the languages were spoken. They were able to conquer so much territory because their nomadic lifestyle, their use of the horse and wheeled vehicles such as chariots gave them a decisive military advantage. This model of conquest and cultural replacement was once widely accepted, but now has generally been rejected, at least as it pertains to Europe as a whole. Conquest, if it occurred, was a local phenomenon; there is no evidence of general warfare or cultural replacements. It is also difficult to tell what language people spoke from pre-literate artifacts; where conquest has occurred, it may have been one group of Indo-Europeans by another.


Postuar nga Endri datë 23 Tetor 2004 - 01:26:

It's not new. We all come from there sometimes in our life. So the theory of being blonde and blue eyes does not hold water anymore. Although it was many years ago nowdays we have adapted to our new environment. There is many flaws, that's why we have to study it carefully. Who were the original Europeans, we dont have evidence of migration movements especially such huge ones. As you said we dont have evidence also on cultural replacement.


Postuar nga Keni datë 27 Nëntor 2004 - 03:15:

Kjo teme u spostua te gjuha Anglisht, mbasi nuk ka asnje fjale shqipe perveç temes.


Postuar nga Cindi datë 31 Tetor 2005 - 20:35:

Regarding to this matter I have a question.

When an albanian citizen has to fill a document how he has to answer to the question of his race:

White-non hispanic.
White-caucasian.
Other (including here maditerranian race specified).

This is always an argument in our family's conversations.
I would appreciate any sugestion to this matter, because we have different answers to this issue.


Postuar nga darke datë 04 Nëntor 2005 - 23:34:

Question

Citim:
Po citoj ato që tha football

I would appreciate any sugestion to this matter, because we have different answers to this issue.


which answers?


Postuar nga Cindi datë 04 Nëntor 2005 - 23:42:

Unhappy

One of the three above


Postuar nga darke datë 05 Nëntor 2005 - 00:13:

If I were you I would choose white-caucasian. And if I were me I would choose other: black-caucasian, just for the stupid civil servants to get lost


Postuar nga Cindi datë 05 Nëntor 2005 - 00:21:

I got you baby. You're like my son.

Thanks_football


Postuar nga darke datë 05 Nëntor 2005 - 00:24:

your son is black caucasian?
s'ka gje_darke:p


Postuar nga Cindi datë 05 Nëntor 2005 - 00:35:

Talking

Citim:
Po citoj ato që tha darke
your son is black caucasian?
s'ka gje_darke:p



Actually is black - Irish. Where should I put that "bastard". Uuppss now we 're going to have a clean up. Some work for the moderators. Let them to work a little bit, how do you think?

Have a good weekend.


Postuar nga jimmy84 datë 05 Nëntor 2005 - 00:46:

Darke who said that "aryans" are not a better race? Do u know that the "aryan" monkey was blonde, wide shoulders, blue eyes and very handsome. If you don`t believe just look at the Hitler`s pictures. He is exactly a blonde, handsome, blue-eyes aryan. And to be completly sure you can see a picture of Gebbels. He was not only blonde, handsome and wide-shoulders but he was even.....t`a thoje ndonjeri "calaman" ne anglisht se une e harrova hahahahhahahah.


Postuar nga Endri datë 07 Prill 2007 - 12:28:

Okay bringing this topic up again.

You will find some pictures of the Europid Races posted in my forum to get a general idea what each of them looks like.
I dont understand why in Darke list, Turanid, Indic, Dravidic races are posted under the europid/caucasoid subsection. I dont know...

With the development of racial theory the term Caucasoid (Caucasian-like) also came into use to encompass a larger grouping of populations with similar skull-shapes, including many North African, South Asian and Middle Eastern peoples.[6] Carleton Coon did not use the term Caucasian and Caucasoid interchangeably. He used the term "Caucasian" or "caucasic" to reference the subdivision of Caucasoids located around the Caucasus.[7]

Perhaps in this context they are classified as caucasoid. I dont consider an Indic person to be European or Caucasian.

Albania is highly Dinaric(prolly around 70%) as i mentioned before. According to anthropologist Carleton S. Coon, Albania has the most extreme forms of dinarics especially the regions around Montenegro. They are also the regions whom its inhabbitants are known to be the tallest in Europe. At least back in the 1930's when the study was done. I think the Dutch hold the title now.

Anyhow. the rest of the 30% is Meds and Alpine. This figure might be even higher.


 
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