lorie
you fascinate me...

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The truth is ALWAYS somewhere in the middle.
Just to clarify this because this line may be interpreted in very different ways by different viewpoints:
The article makes some very good points and also mentions faith and religion, but even w/o mentioning faith and religion, I think it makes very good points regarding the destructive influences porn has on people. It's reasonable and logical. It makes complete sense to me that the body is very closely related to the spiritual and the soul.
Maybe Western societies have trained us to look at the physical world apart from the spiritual and apart from the psychological. One major complaint in nowadays primary care physicians, we as psychologists have, is that they are not trained in detecting psychological symptoms and prescribe something completely physical-related when the person has say: depression. So my point is: we are SO trained to categorize and compartmentalize everything that we forget a human being is a whole entity: mind, body and soul. I LOOVE the idea of seeing the person as an entity though, part of the reason is because I am a Christian and it has trained me to see the individual that way.
And that is why, I for once, did not see the Christian rules of no porn,as a restriction of rights or restriction of sexual release. I saw it because in the Christian view, porn limits seeing the person as whole. As the article very well describes, there is so much more on the person to enjoy, before you undress the person with your eyes and imagine doing things in your mind with that person.
Now, I like Deb's response because it is very realistic, though I do know of men in my life who have no desire/wish to search for this kind of entertainment.
I also don't like Deb's response for one reason. She says :"at least it is better than cheating". And this is where the "middle ground" comes for me. I think for someone who is not a Christian, this is a perfect response. It is better to do that once in a while , than to cheat or to get addicted on it. I get it. You got needs, you have to find an outlet of some sort. I am not being sarcastic here. I do get it.
The Christian view is slightly different however. What does a person do, who knows that porn is wrong for the above reasons explained and reads the Bible and understands that it is wrong, yet has the same exact needs he/she has if he/she were not a believer? Now, some may call it a prison or a trap of some sort, or like Faja stated: some sort of dictatorship.
I,again don't see it that way because I see it not just by mere rules of porn and no porn. I see it more as a personal relationship with God: that if you loved someone so dearly, you would try your best to please that person and refrain yourself from voyeurism of any sort so when the time came, you could experience the real pleasure, the real deal ,the real connection mind,body soul with your loved one, not cheap sex on the screen.
When I wrote previously that "Biblical standards are certain goals to strive for" I meant it that NO PORN is the standard. The road to that standard is the "middle ground" or battlefield. The Christian view is of the idea to strive for, to work for, to not settle for the status- quo that it is okay.
Will it continue to happen ( porn watching that is) for a Christian person whose passion is to please God? Yes maybe.
Is it worth fighting for the Biblical standard of complete connection with the other person w/o this third party of gloom( porn) to lurk around your relationship? To my opinion it's a BIG YES.
So the middle ground is about "not settling" but fighting for it. But then again, I am coming from a Christian perspective which fighting for these impossible high standards the Bible mentions are taken seriously. But it's not viewed as a prison, it's viewed as a fight or adventurous healing quest, out of your own will and volition. And I think PERSPECTIVE here is really important.
At least in my life I have learned that if I don't have the perspective on something specific I want to achieve, I wouldn't be fighting so hard for it. So seeing something as a prison will definitely make me anxious and uneasy, but seeing something out of love,betterment and having a sort of a great vision, gets me going.
I wasn't gonna get into analysis but I sort of felt compelled to. 
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Philippians 4:8-Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things.
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